I want a very good mulching zero-turn, preferably fabricated deck in the 42 to 46 range to fit through my storage doors. After the first cut, he had words for it. The orange AUTOMOWER Model 535 AWD 967 85 34-66 is their commercial version. Yard is about 1 acre. We have been in touch over the past few years. Ive pretty much narrowed my choice down to the JD Z355R (maybe the Z375R) or the Toro MX5075 (a bit under 2 acres, somewhat bumpy, with a few hills and some trees and obstacles to dodge). Looking around at other manufacturers They are all charging $800-$1100 for the ZT 2800 trannys over the ZT 2200. Personally, Since the mowers are both good machines and both have a good reputation Id talk to the dealers and buy from the dealer that you like the most. A lot of great reviews online / Pro landscapers rave about build/cut/speed 4. The offset deck sticks out more on the left of the mower making it very easy to trim around stuff. This in comparison with the ZT1s EZT-2200. When not in use, should the deck be kept at a specific height (all the way up or down)? I was leaning toward the Gravely/Ariens just trying to suss this as thoroughly as I can. Dealer did mention that Cub Cadet is the hottest mower they sell now, even though he had a Toro shirt on ha ha. I would not expect any other issues in the next 1500 hours. Im pretty sure Ive narrowed down the candidates to the Toro SS 4225, the Deere Z335M, or Deere Z345M/R (unless you recommend something else), but Im not super pumped about the Briggs engines in each of them. Zero-Turn Stand On. Also, the price for their 1 time leaf collection last year easily justifies a better solution there. Even the engines are the same. The Ariens IKON XL 42 comes to mind. Hi Bill, Dixie Chopper is under new ownership again. The Ariens Apex and Zenith both have good, soft seats and large wheels so they will ride smooth. And, it is worth the extra for the IKON XL. Both show it online so should be able to at least order the model I want. Hi Paul, Do not which one cannot be rebuilt or can for that matter. TayMac MM410C Single Horizontal/Vertical Mount 1-Gang Weatherproof In-Use Electrical Outlet Cover for Home Improvement, 2.75 in, Clear. Tractor Supply sells the Bad Boy brand and they have several models that look good but they are kind of high ($4,400 for the "ZT"), and to round it off Toro (model SS4266) has some in my size and budget range. It has a great engine, heavy-duty transmissions, and a great cutting deck. I have an ExMark 42 inch. Really appreciate the breakdown there! https://www.russopower.com/bob-cat-quickcat-48-stand-on-mower-20-5hp-kawasaki, https://www.walmart.com/ip/Bradley-Mowers-48SC-BS24V-48-Hydro-Drive-Stand-On-Compact-Zero-Turn-Mower-Briggs-Vanguard-24HP-Electric-Start/857626337?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=0&adid=22222222227101833639&wmlspartner=wmtlabs&wl0=&wl1=s&wl2=c&wl3=217425214023&wl4=pla-351178471162&wl5=9007349&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=8175035&wl11=online&wl12=857626337&wl13=&veh=sem&gclid=CjwKCAjw8LTmBRBCEiwAbhh-6DkrXIHh6wBIoiq3Nq8irCQhs-bWBoJAYhEHyGtOPxcEuDgjojV9gxoCVFQQAvD_BwE. I am looking between the Ariens Ikon X 52 and the Toro MX5000. Hi James, I made a comparison list of the two here: Product comparison. Best ride and cut NOT as important as longevity and ease of maintenance. The joystick does seem nice, but I have no idea which one might be better for ride comfort, durability, etc. Its a heavy-duty mower but the Deere will have more options available like baggers and mulch kits. Of course, Im always partial to Exmark. That said, they are tough enough to keep your woods clear but if you let the growth get over 11 inches or so you may have to mow the area 2 or more times before you get a clean cut. The Boulevard doesnt have the step and rail. They have less lift than regular blades so they dont cut as evenly. Fab 24.5 HP V-Twin Gas Zero-Turn Riding Mower with Smart Speed, https://www.toro.com/en/homeowner/riding-mowers/timecutter-mx5000-74775, https://www.costco.com/CatalogSearch?dept=All&keyword=Jonsered, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRAJIH0veOM, Toro TimeCutter HD with MyRIDE 48 in. Appreciate you help. I guess I am torn between the Ariens Ikon 42 and the Cub ZT1 42. Looking at either a cub cadet or a another Toro.we have a farm yard ,about 2 acres . Thoughts. Finally needed work done on the trannys. The Kubota Z700 series (Z723KH-48 / Z724KH-54 / Z725KH-60 / Z724XKW-48 / Z724XKW-54 / Z726XKW-60) mowers have a top speed of 11.2 MPH for maximum productivity when you need to get the job done fast. Wanted to get your thoughts on both. Thank you for the research and in-depth articles; Ive learned a great deal already. I did check out your videos last week, very informative! Fuel Stabilizer: When I go to the gas station and buy fuel I always put fuel stabilizer in the storage tank. Hi Paul, It has baffles under the deck for mulching so it will take about 30 minutes to switch from mulch to bag. For a rugged mower for two acres, I like the Ariens IKON XL and Ariens APEX at the Home Depot. I dont know if they have CA versions. It has smooth-running V-Twin and bags well. Not going to pull much or do much ground work with it. Both have an excellent reputation. I especially like the price around $4300. You dont need the armrests because of the way you drive the Walker. That said. Its been a great cart. In in the market for a zero turn and im not sure which one to go with. Decent engine, decent transmissions and built well. Walker will gladly come out and demo one on your property. In the bulleted info points about the Toro above it reads: So unless you can think of anything else I need to consider that might change my mind, I think Ill be going with the green and yellow Z-TRAK to start my ZTR experience. Now, if you have no one around when you are mowing and have strict instructions with all the kids and adults in your neighborhood not to come on your yard when you are mowing you may try lifting the side discharge chute high enough so the grass clippings spread evenly. Bookmark the permalink . I want to try a ZTR mainly because I feel like Im wrestling the steering wheel constantly and I have to back up and pull forward too much at the corners of the yard. which tires are good for not tearing up the yard? Hi Daron, Would you please point me to where you read or heard that Toro only has a tow limit of 85lbs? Change the oil, air filter, and the belts as needed. The Ariens Apex is the mower I would buy for my father. If I buy the Boulevard, Ill try to make that up to you somehow. 3400 pumps, 23 tires, 7 gauge deck, 10mph, B&S Vanguard for $4200? This was my original choice before researching because well it was the only brand I knew. Hi Dan, Yes, the ZT1 has the same hydros as the Jonsered. I also have a chance to purchase a used exmark Z series for 4K with about 900 hours , but the concern over buying used as someone who isnt familiar with engines is a bit scary? Its not a manicured lawn but its not bad either. I cant really understand why Bad Boy wants to charge you $600 more for the Kawaski FR 630. Cub Cadet has put a lot of time into designing a deck that cuts just as well and from what Ive seen so far (on YouTube) it cuts very, very well. All the best to you and your granddaughter. Since then I have went to a local dealer that sells Toro and Cub Cadet. Hi Paul, I have 1 acre of land, flat, with fenced backyard and trees on the side in the front yard. It is a yard in the country, not a city lawn. The cut doesnt look quite as good, and he cant follow the bed lines as well as before. What are your thoughts about those in comparison to the other. Without concern about the leaf vac, I was looking at the Cub Cadet ZT2 54-inch or the Toro TimeCutter 54-inch (75754) I judge those to be about the equivalent. Always use the John Deere or Briggs & Stratton Yellow Oil Filter and change the oil at the recommended intervals. DO NOT buy the Dash. recommendedNo-Spill 1450 5-Gallon Poly Gas Can (CARB Compliant)This one has a second handle in the back so it is very easy to use and hang onto when pouring into your fuel tank. The mower has a stamped deck (like your Husqvarna) and the Toro engine. But you are saying that isnt the case? Personally, Id go with the 48 inch but the 54 and 60 inch models will get you done faster. Oddly enough I was just at the Home Depot and looking at both and wound up talking to a commercial lawn care guy. 2. Q: What are your thoughts about transmissions with and without charge pumps? Almost everyone else including Honda, Deere, Cub Cadet, Toro, etc, is getting into robotic mowers. Hydro-Gear transmissions. Robotic Mowers. If you feel there is an different product that would better fit my needs then Id love to hear from you! Hello Paul. Been using a 42 in cone drive dixon for 20 years with blower bagger. Hi Jack, for that much lawn I suggest a high-end residential or entry-level commercial mower. I am considering a Kubota z231 BR-48 and a John Deere Z530M-48. Id like to stay cost conscious but I am willing to pay more for an exquisite end result. Hi Scott, Thank you for your support! Thanks for the feedback! But, since Im a big guy the handle does dig into my thigh when Im mowing. It has the heavier duty trannys and really rides nice! Ive been tasked with researching the options. Its really interesting how the Internet can get facts turned upside down. With the belt loose wiggle the pulley on the electric clutch up and down (on the bottom of the engine) there should be no play. There are more parts to wear out on the Ferris and that bouncing can give you an uneven cut after a few years. I am looking at zero turns and I feel like I can spend $3,000 or less and get a great mower. A cheaper belt is a cheaper belt. solid! Better transmissions and better controls. Any advice would be well appreciated. (It will be set up and delivered by a local dealer) I checked the Redding, CA website and they can get either one to you in about 2 weeks. Hi Robert, On paper, the Liberty Z meets all the criteria for a good $4500 ZTR. You may not like the Walker for your tasks. Turning downhill can cause the mower to lose traction and slide down the slope. Bad Boy zero-turn model . Comes down to maybe the paint color. Ive thought about asking for the mulch kit to be thrown in for free, but thats only a $110.00 value at retail price. Which One Is Best For You?. The Jonsered tractor is actually a 2014ish Craftsman Yard Tractor. But, like most mowers made by MTD in that time-frame (2012-2015) many of them had problems with the deck drive belt coming off a lot. I have also noticed the Craftsman Pro Series 48 ZTR is on sale for about $3300, putting it in my price range. They offer free set up and home delivery. Click on each item to see them at The Home Depot. Services issues are quickly fixed with Ariens Bad Boy has fewer dealers and the quality can be spotty. Mower King Well-Known Member Joined Sep 19, 2018 Threads 20 Messages 663 The name is an old, well-respected name in the industry. Have a wonderful day! Its a much lighter weight mower than the Toro or Cub Cadet. What do you suggest? Thank you! Since your lawn will be rough you want the strength of the HD line. Im neutral about the Liberty Z. (Most commercial decks depth are 5-6 inches) We are looking for something with good construction and good cut with reasonable price point. Fabricated Deck 23 HP Kawasaki FR Series V-Twin Gas Engine Zero Turn Mower with Lap Bar ControlAvailable at, Cub Cadet Ultima ZT2 54 in. Im looking for a new mower to handle about an acre of gently sloped (about 10 degrees in spots) yard and am seriously considering going for a ZTR mower. I believe the deck shell is the same one used as on the commercial mowers. Toro Titan MX $6,100. They make small batches and keep the price very affordable. It has a heavier deck, heavier transmissions, and heavier frame. Check it out here: Thank you for your prompt response. Picture something you would use a brush hog for.. he was just able to do it a lot faster with a bobcat and an attachment. If you dont have the experience get a 36-44 inch walk-behind and use that until you get the experience. The alternative is the MX6050. It uses the ZT 2200 transmissions BUT, with the one-inch axles, the way the Walker is designed, the center steering, and the low center of gravity you will never have problems with them. I would like to get your thoughts about riding mower options for my property. Thoughts on a JD or Cuba Cadet? Their quality is what you expect. The man who mows for me would like for the mowing to take less time and the mower to require less repair. Leaning towards the 42 that you specified above with the forged deck and smart speed. 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