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She got along well with people. Colorado doesnt care if a spouse is cheating. Excellent observation, R228. She was a malignant narcissist who wrecked havoc when she was questioned. Also, the surgery was in autumn, 2017, two years after the 2015 BK. But its true. What's the source on that 500k figure? R130: if you read the discovery, Shannan was willing to change. No, R108. Jesus. Also a little insight into her horrendous personality from someone who knew her way back when. She stayed at home all day gaming while her wife worked full time at Kohls. LOL. Shannan did indeed feed Bella and CeCe Thrive K. Heres an inspiring video with comments to tell you how wonderful it was. 107: Chris was cheating, so he had no power. If you can't find the email you can resend it here. I thought this thread was entitled 'Let's talk about Shannan Watts' as an excuse to get back to talking about Chris? I listened to Interview podcast with the ex. After the divorce, LEONARD kept his, but changed it to $100k and changed the beneficiary. Safe to say they were actually depending on Chris's 60k, which didn't cover their oversized suburban lifestyle. Shannon too did a lot for the family. What do you mean? "Omg, I was so horrified that my wife killed our kids that I crammed them in an oil tank". However, she fell oddly silent after the post on August 9 at around 11.46pm, which showed the plastic doll lying shrouded on a leather loveseat. The community of Frederick, Colorado and the entire nation was horrified when Chris killed his entire family in August 2018. Oh to be a remotely attractive straight white man. I do agree that Kessinger had more involvement than she pretended. The description of what he did to those little girls. She was previously married to a man named Leonard Kim and they got divorced in 2009 . TONS of clothes. Women like that can get him to do anything. Of course what Chris Watts did in murdering his family and especially his children was horrendously wrong. LEONARD had heard that SHANANN was really involved in Thrive. And, the deceased woman's mother did, as well? But family members remain baffled by the murders, and police remain tight-lipped about how the woman and girls were killed, and what the suspected motive was. Celeste was born July 17, 2015 in Colorado. That router article is amazing . Oh how Shanann was so excited to be able to have another child because of her battle with Lupus. Just stunning. The 34-year-old mother regularly posted updates on social media about her life in Frederick, Colorado, documenting her rise in the health and wellness world and gushing . Interestingly, she (allegedly) dated Chris, and was supposed to tak about what he was like, but all she talked about was Shabann. What's fascinating about her, OP? Chris Watts, 33, is charged with three counts of first-degree . That makes sense. I knowMARY! Im sure NK wasnt blaming everything on some imaginary disease (yes, I know lupus is REAL, but Shanann didnt have it). Regardless she didnt murder her children, the psychopath Chris Watts took their lives . Im male & a longtime DLer and you can MARY! me all you want to (Im sure I deserve it), but this confession is extremely emotionally upsetting to me to read. My assumption is that LK would like to stay as unconnected to this murder as he can. ^ Thanks for clarifying. 19398 Hathaway Ln, Warrensville Heights, OH 44122 was recently sold on 08-18-2022 for $164,000. Pediatricians screen for it as a matter of course. You can try and shame me for being obsessed with this case, but it wont work. If Shanann was a horrible person to some it doesn't mean she killed her children when so much premeditation seems to be at hand. According to Good Housekeeping, Watts played the role of a concerned husband when Shanann's friend reported her missing after being unable to get in contact with her. I assume she was young and fit back then? Has everyone already forgotten the sub prime mortgage explosion of the early 2000s? According to Shananns mother, the surgery on her neck cost them $100. LEONARD had heard that SHANANN was really involved in Thrive. I didnt like her at all, I basically agree with half the folks on here in that she was an attention seeking, materialistic, annoying AF Frau. That router article is amazing work Nick! And it goes beyond coldness eventheres almost like a sadistic quality to the whole thing. The girls needed two years of doctor visits before they finally received the correct diagnosis of asthma (the diagnosis was made by a PA). The mother seemed to know or assume that her two daughters had staged the creepy dead doll, writing around 2.30pm: 'At least they covered the body together. Chris Watts, 33, allegedly admitted to killing his wife, 34-year-old Shanann, and his daughters, Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3. [quote]All i could think of while watching this video, is what was going thru the minds of financially strapped husbands watching their wives spend money they didn't have on these scams? A bad attack meant a trip to the emergency room. Hours later, Chris killed her and the girls. There is never a good enough reason to do what he did. Look at how Shanann tells Cassie to ask if she can buy a house using her Mother, since Cassie and Josh Rosenberg under went a foreclosure 3 years ago. Financially she had left him no way out. Maybe thats how she could afford to get manicures while their finances were in the shitter. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://www.forbisanddick.com/obituaries/Arie-King/#!/Obituary. I disagree r147, not with your assertions about how the kids would've ended up, but with Chris taking any of it into consideration. She named him Nico Lee. It does seem like a few people are looking to justify her murder so that they don't feel guilty about their attraction to Chris, seriously--but I'm assuming it's mostly tongue in cheek, since even if you can feel sympathy for someone snapping and killing a bitchy frau, there's the two innocent children and all r29 I believe Chris only made 60k/year and Shan'ann MAYBE made anither 30k with the Thrive! I dont have anything bad to say about her non-scam job at a call center in a childrens hospital. But Colorado courts wouldve absolutely not allowed her to move out of state and take the girls, unless there was a good reason (my parents will provide day care for the kids - but they couldnt, since they both had to work) or Chris agreed. According to a Facebook post . Another person she was using? I wonder if she might have used that Thrive crap on the kids. shanann watts first marriagedream about someone faking their death. I would wager that no gay here appreciates that type of reasoning when it goes against your own practices ( as on forums where it's said, they make that choice, nothing excuses it). R109: if Shannnanon filed for divorce claiming adultry, pregnant with 2 children under 5, shell get what she wants. What evidence is there that Shanann was making up her diagnosis of Lupus, whether or not she was "a hypochondriac and OCD"? There was equity in the house but they didnt exactly buy low. Perhaps they were close at one time. Shanann Watts ex husband Leonard King - (Speaking about their relationship) TV NEWS 1.38K subscribers Subscribe 44K views 3 years ago Shanann Watts ex husband Leonard King - (Speaking. But nonetheless I still feel Chris killed the children. He learned of this case from social media and news. Why is he being so cold? And then she does the usual bulldozer thing (she just couldnt help it) and buys a self-help book and demands he read it and write a fucking book report on it. And it was mostly consumer debt, no? I'll be back. She did cheat with the dirty south guy. Your latest Netflix obsession has arrived. I'm not R147 but the first 3 seem to fit R150. LEONARD said that people liked SHANANN. The MIL was a cunt to her, too, but I think its because MIL recognized a fellow manipulator. R181, basically what we already knew. Required fields are marked *. I have to wonder if she didnt try to historically get some cash contributions from her parents by asserting she had medical debt. In 2018, husband and father Chris Wattswas arrested for murdering his pregnant wife, Shanann Watts, and their two young daughters, Bella and Celeste, in Colorado (via Oxygen). Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Munchausen's, and Munchausen's By Proxy! Chris Watts, then 33, had grown distant from his family and was seeing a new woman. [quote]However, anyone who devotes MONTHS to harping on how annoying a dead woman was when she was alive, has all the screws loose. Thank you Dr. Van De Leek for your enlightament, You have even managed to make it readable and easy to read. But Shannon was not normal, since she had her whole materialistic/I and my kiddos are so sick con gig going. R23, the medical bills were because she had factitious disorder. lts only one way emotions and feelings. "Her car is here but she's not at home. She has a pretty face. Talk about flood irrigation! Im not doubting exactly, I just need it explained. https://www.wltx.com/article/news/slain-mom-2-daughters-had-been-in-sc-just-weeks-before-their-deaths/101-585544417, Was just being nosey and googling, do you think this is the same Arie King in N.C? Most states are nowadays. Was he down-playing them because his brain could not process some inner rage about finances? Thank you for posting it! I would love to see a list that leads to Premeditated Murder. The Rzucek's Say They Loved Chris At First. R231, thats a very good point. He learned of this case from social media and news. Do you know where she's at?" 500k is insane, no matter what year it was! You seem to like the psychopath label. LEONARD knew nothing of SHANANNs current husband, other than what he saw on the news. THIS IS TOTAL LEFT FIELD.. She did everything to come across as the perfect, crunchy-earthy, cool progressive lesbian mom. Maybe if he'd convinced a judge that Shan'ann was a dishonest grifter he would have succeeded. The alienation, the excuses shes having a bad day, all of it. You're projecting your own values onto him. And Shanann. I think Nick Der Leek does an outstanding job because he cleverly reviewed the case in its entirety and was able to provide spot on the mental makeup of both Chris and Shannan beginning with being unequally yoked. Her high school drama teacher said they called her Shanna ANN. R128 Well, his plans were foiled when her flight was delayed hours, and the friend called 911 early the next day. This sub is for factual information, mourning, and speculative discussion only - no harassment of the victims or family members. And that anyone who wants to dissect the situation, including dissecting the victim, is also CRAZY and therefore thinks the perp should go free and the victim deserved to die. R58 even sounds offended that they don't meet his standards for child attractiveness. Perhaps Chris thought that as well. Chris Watts ultimately confessed to strangling 34-year-old Shanann, who was 15 weeks pregnant with a boy, and then smothering 3-year-old Celeste. And Shanann invites Josh and Cassie to live with them so Josh can get a job with Ace Hardware. Interview with Leonard King, Shan'ann Watts' Ex-Husband [47th Tranche] | TRUE CRIME ROCKET SCIENCE W Wanda Sweitzer 41 followers More information Interview with Leonard King, Shan'ann Watts' Ex-Husband [47th Tranche] | TRUE CRIME ROCKET SCIENCE Book Series Covers Science Today Moving In Together Baby Hospital Rocket Science 100 Book But OH MY GOD! He pleaded guilty that November to all three slayings. I just dont get the callousness towards the girls. But then it was built up with more McMansions pretty quickly, though. Maybe he didn't want to be full-time parent. I assure you i am not a moron. (where they're hugging). Is R58 a ped-o? Heyy Guyzz Just wanted to remind my fave DL'ers..hey Kiki, hey girl, um, hi Missy, hey girl..um, my fave DL'ers to keep on thrivin' cuz you know, um, hey Karen, heyy Shawna..i suffer from OCD, AIDS, Cancer, ADHD, NPD, Lupus and i will tell you that since I started workin for this company, i was in really bad health..hey Buffy hey girl..Wut Chris? It has helped me to put my thoughts in perspective because nothing else has. "Virtually impossible to engage (her) in conversation." From the more than 2000 page discovery file published by the DA months ago. August 25, 2018 Shan'ann Cathryn Watts, 34 and daughters Bella Marie Watts, 4 & Celeste Cathryn Watts, 3 & unborn son Nico Lee of Frederick, Colorado, died on Thursday, August 16, 2018. She tore through life, grabbing grabbing grabbing, and demanding. It doesnt matter what her past mistakes may or may not have been. It was reported that she made $80,000 a year. Google 'Bella and Celeste Watts People.com' under Google images. She was desperate when she realized he was done. I asked about SHANANNs skills in conflict resolution. Walking away from his family would've left him (and then, obviously) far better off than where he is now. I remember there was some anti-Lularore/MLM site that had stories of men divorcing their wives due to MLM debt. I'm surprised there is so much suspicion about how Shannan afforded that big house in NC. On social media, the couple seemed like they had a perfect marriage. R166: Do you have evidence of this scamming and embezzlement? That's an interesting piece of information. Had Chris had 30k of his own liquid funds for the divorce and post-divorce actions, he couldve gotten primary physical custody of his kids, since Shannan wouldve no doubt engaged in parental alienation, factitious disorder by proxy, and financial disaster. Not only the people, but the backdrop to the story: middle class striving, cheap looking overpriced McMansion, Colorado oil country, an MLM scheme financially bleeding the couple, the killer husband's mistress, strife with the in-laws, posing on Instagram as if you've got life all figured out, showing off all the materialistic crap you charged on credit cards, etc. After the divorce, LEONARD kept his, but changed it to $100k and changed the beneficiary. I think if Shan'ann had lived she would have ended up being another Dee Dee Blanchard. Like an entire store's worth. LEONARD agreed to share my contact information with his wife for her to call, if she knew anything about SHANANN, possibly through Thrive.". Shananns behavior is not odd at all, in fact, its pretty much how people act when they no longer want to be with you. Following the disappearance of Chris' wife, Shanann Watts, and the couple's two children from a small Denver suburb in 2018, a major police hunt ensued. He left one of their bed sheets in the field with the bodies. R146 If the Watts murders hadn't occurred I think as time went on the children would've been increasingly, negatively impacted by Shannan's hypochondria, delusional thinking, over-spending, vindictiveness and general megalomania. Facebook Chris Watts . I bet those bitches have some stories to tell. I also want to see her car model pictures too. Facebook & its ilk are full of fraus like her -- none of them deserve to die but all of them are annoying as hell. And its interesting to see how people defend her nauseating videos (it was for her JOB!) and bitchiness to her husband and children (I boss my husband. R39 / r40, can you imagine Shanann hiking? Christopher Watts, the husband of pregnant Shanann Watts and the father of Bella and 3-year-old Celeste, pleaded guilty last week to killing all three in August. Chriss mom is a nasty soul and exhibits the toxic traits of a Narcissist herself, and so it would make sense. Crime Junkie podcast just did an episode on this case. Im not saying she killed anyone, but I think she goaded him. The. She had DOUBLE Munchausen's! click ACCEPT. So does anyone who thinks a guy who murdered his whole family should go free because he's marginally attractive and his murdered wife was annoying. This was from an interview with one of Shanann's Thrive friends, that they all were friendly. John Forbes officiating. Watts was convicted of strangling his wife, Shanann, 34, in the house and then smothering his daughters Bella, 4, and Celeste, 3, at his work site. He was obviously still fucking his wife yet he was still a crazy horn dog. Chris isnt going anywhere, so he should turn her in. He should have snapped and just taken off. And even during the confession, he still doesnt seem to feel bad for the two little girls. But despite Chris' violent actions, he seemed to have the support of his parents. She was a compelling personality. Even NK barely talked about what he was like. Wedding Picture of Shanann and Chris Watts I really didnt. Before meeting Chris, she was married to a man named Leonard King, and they got divorced in 2009. Netflix viewers believe a murdered wife sent police a clue from beyond the grave after spotting something "creepy" in the doco about her brutal murder at the hands of her cheating husband. 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