Was there any dispute between you and the Agency? I am afraid we are going to have to leave to make this vote right now. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Do you have that list with you? Their whereabouts are completely unknown. This would include things like: (1) determining lines of fire from upper story windows, (2) planning the access and escape routes for the sniper team, (3) positioning and controlling the designated patsy as a workman inside the building, (4) fabricating evidence such as rifle, cartridges, and paper bag to implicate the patsy, (5) selecting the so-called snipers nest where the ersatz evidence would be planted. Mr. GOLDSMITH - I have nothing further, Mr. Chairman. Since the CIA has the capability of engineering car crashes to look like accidents, Harriss name should be added to the list of mysterious deaths, along with Warren Commission witness Lee Bowers, who died when his car ran off the road and ran into a freeway abutment. Mr. WILCOTT - The first time I heard about Oswald being connected in any way with CIA was the day after the Kennedy assassination. (SIG) in CIA Counterintelligence held a 201 file on Oswald in the three years prior to JFK's assassination. The other one was the Lone Star School Book Depository, also located in the city of Dallas. Adams said, I believe the President has been shot. Neither Shelley nor Lovelady said anything in reply. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. There are photos of him getting into a police car along with Bonnie Ray Williams and Daniel Arce. Mr. WILCOTT - They were maintained on a thirty-day basis, and then they were closed off at the end of the month. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. She enjoyed keeping up on the Kennedy family during their years in the White House. time and date of assassination and correspondence with time and date of Wilcott's hearing of assassination. Dr. King was killed by one rifle shot fired from in front of him. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, I did. ). Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. Mr. DODD - In. However, while visiting the vacant building in 1983, Hurt saw seven large wooden boxes on the sixth floor, left behind by the TSBD when it moved to a new location in 1970. We should not jump to conclusions, since we do not know the entity that was actually paying him. Mr. GOLDSMITH - What was your response to this revelatic as to what Oswald's cryptonym was? Would you tell the Committee what the "need-to-know" principle is? (Whereupon, a brief recess was taken.) The day after, perhaps, two or three weeks after, the kind of talk was that CIA was somehow connected. Mr. GOLDSMITH - And how did that come to your attention: She said that she had been in the personnel department since 1982, and she never knew anyone by that name. (Their previous address was 501 Elm Street on the first floor of the Dal-Tex building.). suspicious that many of the other things that happened may have had as its source the CIA. Mr. WILCOTT - Very much. Mr. GOLDSMITH - If the agency, in fact, was run on the "need-to-know" basis, how would you account for so many people supposedly knowing that Oswald was an agent? Mr. WILCOTT - I really don't know. He was still living on Tatum Avenue at the time of the assassination. Additional gift options are available when buying one eBook at a time. Apart from the one officer who said to you that you had paid monies with respect to Oswald's cryptonym, what were the other six or seven persons' purported connection with Oswald and the Agency's relation to him. Mr. GOLDSMITH - As a matter of routine, there would be that reference? Mr. CORNWELL - At what point in time did your discussions outside of the Agency first become a matter of publication in a newspaper or magazine or on television? Namely the mention that Shelley was a CIA operative, while at the same time he was an employee in the schoolbook business. He was traveling from his mothers house in Ohio to Georgia. He claims the charges were dropped, but he stated that he turned away several newspapers and magazines offering huge amounts of money for his personal account of the assassination. She died in 1969. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Why has it been difficult? [2] Midnight/Globe, February 14, 1978. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Did you bring that list with you today? His wife Mildred refused to talk about the assassination even with members of her own family. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Can you give the Committee the names of any persons who might corroborate your allegation? Mr. WILCOTT - I don't remember his name now offhand. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Do you know whether CIA Headquarters would have had either copies or originals of the cash disbursement files? Mr. CORNWELL - Do you have any knowledge, based upon your tenure XXXXXXX as to who would have trained Oswald in the Russian language if that occurred? About four or five years after the assassination, she said, Scott Foresman and another publisher called Southwestern decided to sever ties with the Texas School Book Depository. Henry Hurt, author of Reasonable Doubt, discovered such boxes while investigating the claims of an alleged conspirator. Mr. PREYER - Thank you. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. Mr. PREYER - Let me interrupt. (Whereupon, a recess was taken while the members of the Committee went to the floor of the House for a vote.). Mr. Wilcott. Obviously, the distance to Ambassador Row was too great to serve as a useful guide to anyone seeking to verify Glazes account. Fritz was on the sixth floor examining the scene when Truly told him of this. Years later, I found out that he moved to Austin, Texas, where he began working for the Austin American Statesman in 1979. Three of the seven boxes appear in a photograph in his book. She said that there is a whole lot more to tell about the TSBD than what has been publishedthat the whole building should be suspected as more or less of a safe base to operate from that day in November 1963.[9]. [3], Actually, the move took place a few months before the assassination. Mr. CORNWELL - Why did you leave the CIA? We publish here the Wilcott affidavit and interrogation by the HSCA, declassified by the Assassination Records Review Board. Mr. WILCOTT - My name is James B. Wilcott. Mr. GOLDSMITH - To your knowledge, would any records at CIA Headquarters document that Oswald was a CIA agent? Mr. GOLDSMITH - Could you give an example of that? [11] Glaze misdated his letter as 12/12/74.. Download the free Kindle app and start reading Kindle books instantly on your smartphone, tablet, or computer - no Kindle device required. Also Present: Elizabeth Berning, Chief Clerk, and Charles Berk, Betsy Wolf and James Wolf. In 1970, the TSBD and the schoolbook publishers moved out of the old 411 Elm Street building. Mr. WILCOTT - No, sir, I did not. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, I did. It was only my personal That is all I have. Mr. CORNWELL - You had signed a secrecy oath while you were employed with the Agency? During the period, it was unvouchered funds, and my duties were general accounting, and my rate in status was GS-5. this allegation? Did you have further questions? Mary Lea Williams, a receptionist for Allyn & Bacon, said the move occurred two or three years before the assassination. Mr. GOLDSMITH - And would he corroborate your observation that Oswald was an agent? Mar 26, 2017, 6:30:52 PM to The dubious allegations of James Wilcott, a former CIA finance officer who testified before the HSCA in executive session, are still repeated by theorists promoting. William Weston examines the curious letters of Elzie Glaze and considers potential connections between the CIA and the Texas School Book Depository. He thereafter went outside and stood around for five or ten minutes with foreman BILL SHELLEY, and thereafter went home. anyone? Mr. WILCOTT - I believe our full strength was around XXXXXXX and we never actually had that many, I don't think. Also at this location were the office suites of eight schoolbook publishing companies, including Scott Foresman, Southwestern, Macmillan, and McGraw-Hill. [23] William Weston, Robert MacNeil and the Three Calm Men, in the November 1994 issue of The Fourth Decade. How much exact knowledge they had it is impossible for me to say. However, please contact me before mentioning my name to anyone. Mr. GOLDSMITH - However, your testimony is that you spoke to only six people as an estimate who indicated that Oswald was a CIA agent -- and when I say six people, I mean six CIA people, is that correct? Please try again. Mr. WILCOTT - I don't know. There was XXXXXXXXXXXX Branch, who had XXXXXXXXXXX cover. According to his testimony to the Warren Commission, after graduating from high school, he worked in defense plants a little bit during the war and started working at the Texas School Book Depository.[15] The short amount of time between his graduation in late May 1945 and the end of World War II on September 2 plus his employment in defense plants seems to conflict with his claim that he joined an intelligence service and became an officer. Shelley told Glaze that he himself was arrested for the assassination. Mr. WILCOTT - Not at this time. Mr. PREYER - I would like before we begin to read a written statement concerning the subject of the investigation. He also sent a copy of the letter from Blakey as well as a 1978 article from the Dallas Morning News concerning the aforementioned Carolyn Arnold, who states she definitely saw Oswald in the second-floor lunchroom at 12:25 pm. She told a reporter that the FBI falsified her statement to read that she thought she caught a fleeting glimpse of Oswald on the first floor at 12:15.. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Do you have any knowledge of any record of the CIA at the XXXXXXXX Station ever being destroyed out of the ordinary course of business, not as a matter of routine? At the end of. And perhaps even having people inside the TSBD as assets. New York, 1989) p. 319. Mr. GOLDSMITH - So, it never really came forward for you to go to the Warren Commission, did it? Dedicated to the political vision and legacy of John and Robert Kennedy, Martin Luther King Jr., and Malcolm X,and to the investigation of their murders. Mr. SAWYER - Were there any other instances of harassment? Mr. GOLDSMITH - How many people in the CIA? It was more of a casual kind of thing, to my way of thinking. Mr. WILCOTT - They were extremely vulgar and I don't think that I should give the full context of them. Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. After leaving high school he might have continued as an intelligence operative working undercover in local defense plants (plural) during the last months of the war. ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY of the Select Committee on He kept his pocket calendars from his years of employment, and he noted when the grocery company moved out of the building to a new facility in another part of Dallas. Mr. Shelly claims to have been an intelligence officer during World War II and thereafter joined the CIA. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Did you ever bring your allegation to the attention of anyone in the CIA? I then proceeded to write an article called The Glaze Letters for the May 1999 issue of Jerry Roses JFK assassination research journal called The Fourth Decade. Enclosing the back area is a high, chain-link fence with coils of barbed wire on top. Mr. SAWYER - How long were you associated with that? Mr. WILCOTT - Yes. [6] They held a big meeting during which they warned everyone not to discuss the assassination with outsiders. Larry Watanabi, XXXXXX Branch, Senior Case Officer; and XXXXXXXXXXX, deep commercial cover agent. Something went wrong. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Where is Concord located? [23], The man using the pay phone was Shelley, for in an affidavit made out that same afternoon, he said, "I went back into the building [from outside where he viewed the shooting of the president] and went inside and called my wife and told her what happened. Mr. CORNWELL - Did you -- at the time you made the decision to discuss outside of the Agency this matter, did you focus on the secrecy oath problem? Mr. WILCOTT - Yes, sir. My testimony included numerous meetings with a man named Bill Shelly (I am no longer certain of the correct spelling of his last name.) Mr. PREYER - And Miami, was that comparable in size? Mr. PREYER - Under our committee rules, Mr. Wilcott, a witness is entitled, at the conclusion of the questioning, to make a five-minute statement if he wishes or to give a fuller explanation of any of his answers; so that at this time we make that five minutes available to you if you care to elaborate or say anything further. Insofar as I know, this information has never been made public. According to an FBI report dated November 22, 1963, warehouse manager Roy Truly said, The Texas School Book Depository has occupied the building at 411 Elm Street for only a few months. We appreciate your being here today, Mr. Wilcott. [10] Larry Ray Harris at the age of 44 died in an automobile accident on October 5, 1996. One man had blonde or light-brown hair, wore a white shirt, and was armed with a rifle. Wilcotts affidavit and deposition were declassified by the ARRB. Mr. CORNWELL - In other words, that is, the first two letters or the last ones would have been the same as this? Since then, he has written numerous articles on the subject for various periodicals, including The Fourth Decade, Dealey Plaza Echo, and Probe. Yet their new location was seven miles south of the intersection of Royal Lane and Interstate 35 at 8301 Ambassador Row. (2009), James W. Douglass explains this in detail, including the James Wilcott story. ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT JOHN F. KENNEDY . Please try again. RX-ZIM. Mr. GOLDSMITH - excuse me, just answer the question very generally, without referring to anything right now, and please describe generally what your responsibilities were as a finance officer. Not long after Oswald departed from the scene, Shelley told Truly that Oswald was missing. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Do you have anything to add in response to that question? Mr. SAWYER - What were they? One day Frank O'Connor, the director of the program, called me into his office and he said that he had had a discussion with the public safety commissioner and that the public safety commissioner told him that my phone was bugged, that my house was under surveillance and that a Federal indictment was coming down on me at any time, that he had talked to the mayor and the mayor decided not to fire me but asked me to sign a resignation form which he would date the day previous to the date that the Federal indictment came down. Mr. WILCOTT - Well, I was on day duty for the station. Mr. WILCOTT - Gordon Finch. Thank you for your kind words and interest. Mr. DODD - Would you care to tell us any of the names of people whom you communicated with? Assassinations, The subcommittee met at 10:20 a.m., pursuant to notice, in room 2344 of the Rayburn Office Building, the Honorable Richard Preyer (Chairman of the subcommittee), presiding. Mr. WILCOTT - In 1968. Mr. WILCOTT - XXXXXXXXXXXXX (spelling). Joe was unable to determine if the arson was assassination-related. Mr. WILCOTT - None initially. Investigations of the CIA in the 1960s and 1970s shows that the agency had embedded agents in a wide variety of organizations and institutions, including labor unions, airlines, college student associations, foundations, law firms, banks, savings and loans, investment firms, travel agencies, police departments, post offices, publishing companies, newspapers, call girl services, and mental health institutions. Mr. WILCOTT - I resigned. Joe died on August 29, 2001 at the age of 55. Mr. WILCOTT - Very briefly it did, yes, in what was finally published. Mr. GOLDSMITH - Answer "yes" or "no" for the recorder. I had been involved at one point with a group civil rights group, and they had investigated it and said that there was no wrongdoing on my part as far a this association with the civil rights group. 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